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12/13/17 at 13:18:34
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A couple of us were discussing this in another thread around the time of the Great Forum Outage of December 3 and it looks like those posts are gone.

I looked here and other places online and have seen that GS handguards will fit our R65's.  And there was an old post here on the forum that said as long as you had the rectangle master cylinder, they were a direct fit.

However, when I've gone to Max and some other sites, there are two different versions that come up and they look slightly different.  Can anybody tell me which are the ones that will fit the best/easiest?

Here's a picture of one set I've found.  I'll see if I can find a decent pic of the other ones that show the difference.
  

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Reply #1 - 12/13/17 at 13:29:01
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Here is what Max shows for the same part # as he ones above, for the R65 GS.  And there there is another one, different part number in white. And I'm not sure if there is anything different other than the color?

http://www.maxbmwmotorcycles.com/fiche/DiagramsMain.aspx?vid=51621&diagram=32_07...

And what confused me more was that the same part number search also comes up with this page for the R100GS.  The parts look the same but the drawn picture looks very different. 

http://www.maxbmwmotorcycles.com/fiche/DiagramsMain.aspx?vid=51682&diagram=32_07...

Any ideas?  I'm just looking for the one that will go on the easiest, either direct fit or with minimal modification.
  

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Reply #2 - 12/13/17 at 16:33:59
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I have a set of handguards on my bike that came off an R80GS. They look like the ones you show coming from an R100GS. The only issue I had in mounting them was the cover over the master cylinder. Since I have an 'S' style fairing mounted the master cylinder sits close to the fairing and the handguard piece that covers the master cylinder interfered with the fairing. I trimmed it off and have used them ever since.
  

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Reply #3 - 12/13/17 at 17:27:26
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Hey Marcmax, thanks for the pics. Those almost look like the ones at the top (the photo I posted) also, you think?

The ones in that picture are at ECS which happens to be where I buy Volkswagen parts.  Good price and free shipping if I get them there.  Otherwise I can try from Max.  But if you looked at the links, maybe you can see why it's a little confusing if you don't have them in front of you.

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I think you would be good with either one of them. My only issue was because of the fairing I am using. I had these same handguards on my K75 for a while and the master cylinder portion fit perfectly and that was a square master cylinder as well.
  

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Reply #5 - 12/14/17 at 12:04:43
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Do you know if the ECS parts include the mounting hardware as shown in the photo??

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I would assume that if it is shown in the photo, it should be included.  But you know how assuming works........

The listing for these has no descriptionnot details at all.  Just a few pictures and the part numbers. I might need to call them, if I can remember, I'll ask the specifics about these.
  

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Reply #7 - 12/14/17 at 15:07:53
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Just talked to ECS, he told me that if the picture shows it, it's included.  They take the pictures from what they get in.

He did tell me that they don't have any details on that sort of stuff.  But that they do distribute genuine BMW parts.  Unfortunately, there's no way to pull up a general listing for them.  But if you have a part number, you might find it on their site.  I've found things there accidentally and through Google but has trouble searching their site, so keep that in mind.  I think their search function is a bit finicky.
I'm not sure when, but I might order these. I'll be sure to post if I do.
  

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Reply #8 - 12/14/17 at 15:25:12
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They are super easy to install. There is a molded in ring that the mirror stem passes through and then a screw and nut to pinch the other connector. Longest part will be removing the mirror and reinstalling it.
  

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I had a pair mounted on my '79 with a round master cylinder.
I had to butcher the right-hand cover mount, and it was held on with a zip-tie, but it worked.
I'll try and post a picture when I get home.
  
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And I don't even have the mirror, Marcmax!

Thanks Rob.  Maybe it was your old post about these that I pulled up here? 
  

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BPT wrote on 12/14/17 at 15:45:03:
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Thanks Rob.  Maybe it was your old post about these that I pulled up here? 


Quite possible.
If I can find the thread, and am able to edit those ancient posts, I will add the pictures back where they used to be.
  
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http://www.bmwr65.org/YaBB2.612/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1291905633/6

I followed a link you have in there but it doesn't go to where it used to.
  

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Reply #13 - 12/14/17 at 22:29:59
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Rob Valdez 79 R65 wrote on 12/14/17 at 15:29:45:
I had a pair mounted on my '79 with a round master cylinder.
I had to butcher the right-hand cover mount, and it was held on with a zip-tie, but it worked.
I'll try and post a picture when I get home.


The clutch side fit just like it was made for it.
The brake side was very rough, but then, my bikes were never show queens.

Most of the ugly was covered by the instrument cowling.
  

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Reply #14 - 12/15/17 at 10:01:35
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AS in California has the black guards for $39.78 and free postage (ECS wants $44 plus $10 postage). Have written them asking about the mounting hardware. Will let you know what I find out.

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Sorry, I said free shipping at ECS, but it's free over $49.  I was getting some other things so it'll be free for my order.

But when I looked a couple of days ago, they were less than $44.  Either the price changed or maybe they have more than one listed?
  

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Maybe bad news about ECS - just had a live chat there and this guy told me that they only deal with BMW automotive parts and that motorcycle parts orders usually get cancelled.  I told him about my conversation with the previous guy and he apologized but said that guy was incorrect.

The guy I talked to first didn't seem vague or anything, and was pretty detailed about how it worked.  Now I'm not sure who to believe. The gut today told I was welcome to try, and every once in a whole something gets through.  But most of the time it gets cancelled.
  

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Reply #17 - 12/15/17 at 14:40:27
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Got a reply from AS and the answer was YES the mounting hardware is included. Sent my order off a short while ago. It is snowing here in Brooklyn as we speak , so am looking forward to receiving the hand guards!

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Reply #18 - 12/15/17 at 15:16:54
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jp9094 wrote on 12/15/17 at 10:01:35:
Will let you know what I find out.

Regards to all.


I have been following your hand guard thread and want a pair for my "wind in tour face" LS. I'm interested to know which set they have. There were two types discussed earlier but both carried the same  part number? I like the set that covers the MC. (and I'm sure stating that will be the kiss of death for my preference LOL)
  

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Reply #19 - 12/15/17 at 18:36:02
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And these are the pics that started me wondering Wilcom.  They are obviously very different in the drawn versions.  But in most of the photographs, it's hard to see the details.

That's why I was asking here.  I couldn't figure out if there were 2 different versions, if one or both was a direct fit, and how to get one or the other if 2 differents actually exist.

Who'd have thought a couple of pieces of plastic would be so complicated??
  

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Reply #20 - 12/27/17 at 11:39:10
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The handguards arrived yesterday and I spent around 30 minutes installing them. They are the black ones shown in the first post of this thread and came with the hardware.

Only problems were, the right side guard where the brake reservoir is cannot be screwed in as the fitting for the brake interferes with the holes. My workaround is a zip tie to help secure it.

My other problem was that I had rotated the clutch lever to make the clutch cable lie flatter so there is less chance of it breaking (see the thread about clutch cable from earlier this year). This made the guard lower than it should be. I re turned the clutch lever up so it now covers the hand better.

Will take a ride later ( it is 19 F, -7C outside) and try and get some photos!

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Reply #21 - 12/27/17 at 12:54:29
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Thanks for the update JP.  I got busy with work and holiday stuff so I hadn't done anything yet, but was thinking about calling ECS today and seeing what the next person will say.  I was going to try to order from them but was going to ask how long it takes before they know if it will go through or be cancelled.

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Took my ride, and it was very cold. My first impression was, "Gee these work great". Was doing errands so had to make a number of stops that involved getting on and off the bike and removing my gloves. The longest part of the ride was my first stop, which was the furthest. A ride I take often (to the Grog shop for a bottle of wine). Last time I did this it was 20 F warmer, and my fingers were cold. This time not. However the cumulative effect of removing  and re donning my gloves multiple times was cold fingers. But not as cold as they could of been. I did not use my heated liners this trip, but imagine they would also help.

Apologies for the photo as it is not the best. Took it before I used the zip tie.

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I like'm!!  Going to get a set for the LS. I'm a full fairing guy but cannot bring myself to bastardize a stock LS just for winter comfort. These may help a bunch, the first thing that go's  are my hands........ Cry
  

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That's what I was looking for, just a bit of a windbreak.  I don't need the full on Hippo Hands type.

Thanks for the pic, JP. So do yours appear to be the same ones that Rob posted above?
  

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Thanks for the feed back. I believe they are the same as Rob's . AS in California did not have them in stock, but did not take long to arrive (11 days, from ordering, with the Christmas weekend in the way). Like to hear your experience.

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Interested to hear the results jp9094.

I'm wondering: for the purpose of keeping fingers a little warmer in cold weather, will these do the trick? Is there a significant advantage to something like this? Anyone happen to have experience with both?
  
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Those are what I was referring to as the Hippo Hands. There are a lot of different types, some better than others, from what I've read. Both in quality of how they're put together and also how easy they are to deal with - clearance of controls, getting hands in and out, etc.

I think it's recommended to use some time of plastic/rigid hand guard along with the warmers because wind can push against them on there own and cause problems with your levers.

I don't have the need so didn't look into them into much detail. But I know Hippo Hands are popular.  There is also a guy on ADV that makes them and I think they're pretty popular. I can't remember his name but he sells tool rolls, bags, saddlebag liners and such.  Storm Industries.
  

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I like'm!!  Going to get a set for the LS. I'm a full fairing guy but cannot bring myself to bastardize a stock LS just for winter comfort. These may help a bunch, the first thing that go's  are my hands........ Cry

Get Hippo Hand type handlebar covers.  I love em.

Storm Industries - looks like a good place to shop!

http://www.stormind.net/store.html
  
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The Storm Industries guy does custom stuff and gets a lot of good feedback, from what I've seen.  He makes case/pannier liners to your specs, tool rolls, etc. And he does other things as well like a bag especially for the Kermit Chair.
Seems like a nice guy and people on ADV really seem to like his work.
  

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These are the last pair I had (still have).  I bought them for the CBR250R.  They are made for a bike with fairing-mounted mirrors (no holes for stalks) and bar-end weights.
They have small rubber sleeves that slip over the bar-ends, and that pretty much keeps them from moving.  But they also have a metal bar that connects the two.
(this particular model is NLA, BTW, FWR...)
https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/mpo/d/cold-weather-handlebar-muffs/642458374...

Very nice, made by an Italian company named Tucano Urbano.  They don't even market to North America.  http://www.tucanourbano.com/int/

They do have a presence on Amazon, though:
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_pg_1?rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Atucano+urbano&keywords=tuc...
  
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